Theo Fox: Game 3: Hawks 2, Panthers 5
The Blackhawks fail to score what seems to be the requisite six goals needed to win a game in 2021 falling to the Panthers by a score of 5-2.

How long before Colliton and or Bowman have seen enough bad play by certain players. The shirt training camp makes for some sloppiness but no one can say some players must change their performance

Young players need to play in the AHL if not ready. The larger problem, though, is D Keith. He has not lost ability or know how. He just didn't enjoy playing on a team that plays like horse rap. I really think it eats him up. Yet he knows to suck it up, and not speak out too loudly about it. Problem is, hus attitude shows on the ice. And I don't think it is going to be easy to change hus attitude.

Perhaps you have a different point - of - view. Share it. I don't know fir sure that I have it right. Keith is competitive and it eats him up when he can see he is playing with too many crap players. So it takes the fun out of the game. To a large extent, eh

Theo, no mention of Kurashev? Looking hard for bright spots, but I think he is one. I like the line of Strome, Kubalik, and Kurashev. Hope they are kept together for awhile, they seem to have some chemistry.

BTW, no matter how slow Strome is, he is the only forward on the team 5 on 5 who is making any plays in the offensive zone

He's also saying thank God I'm out of there, and I told you guys Stan's trades were horrendous. Let's re-visit.
1. Saad for Zadorov
2. Maata for Morrison (who?)
3 .Lehner for Subaan
4.Joki for Nystrom
5. Schmaltz for Strome
6. Kahun for Maata
7. Hammer for Murphy
8. Bickell/TT for picks
9. Danault for Weisse/Fleischman
10. Panarin for Saad/Forsberg

I'm sure I'm missing some and yes lots of this had cap implications behind them, but those were created by bad contracts he gave out and we certainly don't have to revisit them too.

Yuk....I'm sick.
Thank God for Euro's added and Dach that have been successful.
Other than that, it's a trainwreck similar to the Bears situation. It starts at the TOP and who's making the hockey decisions. It's going to be a messy year with JC behind the bench as well but I look forward to watching the development of the kids. That's all we got for this year boys.
- Hawkytalk

Did the Bears win three SB's in the last 10 years I completely forgot about?

The Hawks have at least signaled a rebuild whether you think Bowman's the guy for the job or not.

That's a horrible comp.

This team was a long shot to make the playoffs to begin with but what did you think was going to happen when Dach got injured and the Toews illness was announced?

Did the Bears win three SB's in the last 10 years I completely forgot about?

The Hawks have at least signaled a rebuild whether you think Bowman's the guy for the job or not.

That's a horrible comp.

This team was a long shot to make the playoffs to begin with but what did you think was going to happen when Dach got injured and the Toews illness was announced?
- HawkintheD

I thought we’d see a team with players who began to look like they knew where to be in the dzone.

Who could at least approach a forecheck with some understanding of puck retrieval in the ozone.

Who could not be turnstiles at the blue line - who could make the opposition work a little when entering their ozone.

I don’t know what I expected out of the goalies, but I didn’t expect a multi-goal melt-down in each of the three games, after getting back into games two and three.

I expected more leadership than I’ve seen (and maybe I’m just not seeing what has happened) from the veterans - not all of the blown coverages by Keith (covering for a partner?), not lackadaisical offside and apparent lack of interest in back checking by Kane. This paragraph may be unfair. I’m leaving it in.

I expected losses - lots of losses - but I expected them to look like a major league hockey team, competive more than 10 minutes out of 60.

OK - only three games - little camp and practice time - lots of new faces....I can take the losses if we can see improvement.

The best to hope for in this season is some bright spots and growth among the prospects and a very high draft pick. Time to show some Lankinen as well, but every mistake is probably going in the back of the net this season. Too much will be asked of two few talented forwards. I'm not even sure the Hawks can handle the Red Wings without Toews and Dach.

On last note’s postgame, I heard Colliton say that he didn’t have an answer about the low TOI for some players (presumably Kubalik, Strome, Kurasvhev) - that he hadn’t realized that there were low TOI for them. (That comment seems to have been edited out of the video posted on the Hawks’ web site this morning. )

Not a good sign if your head coach doesn’t realize what’s going on on the ice.

Theo- With Keith, could it be that he is just out of position more and not managing gaps, or could it be that is how he always played, but had the ability earlier in his career to close better because of his speed?

A few bright spots last night but, the entire team just appears to be chasing the puck the entire night.

Delia still scrambles and loses his net and his stick. I think he's watched too many Dominik Hasik highlights.

I expect Subban in the net on Tuesday. The schedule has Detroit at home on Friday. I could see Kevin Lankinen in net for that game unless Subban pitches a shutout on Tuesday.

Going to be a long year boys and girls.
Top 5 lottery pick I expect.
Full rebuild should also include trades for the core.
Keith and either Toews and Kane should be moved for picks. What's the point of having having 2 x 10.5 million dollar players on a last place team? Not sure I see the logic in that....im guessing it gets so bad they will ask to be moved. Hall of Famers both for the league and the Blackhawks but it's a a pipe dream to think that they will play their entire career as Hawks. We shall see. Interesting times for sure.

"Keith and either Toews and Kane should be moved for picks. What's the point of having having 2 x 10.5 million dollar players on a last place team"

Oh how it pains me to agree with you, but I think it's time to just throw in the towel, trade away our two HOF players and just start over. If only I had confidence that they could pick a prospect out of a peck of pickles. Hit the jackpot with Dach and Kubalik, but that's about it

1. Saad for Zadorov
2. Maata for Morrison (who?)
3 .Lehner for Subaan

Sorry we didn't get 6 first rounders this is simply Stan bashing and stupid.

I thought we’d see a team with players who began to look like they knew where to be in the dzone.

Who could at least approach a forecheck with some understanding of puck retrieval in the ozone.

Who could not be turnstiles at the blue line - who could make the opposition work a little when entering their ozone.

I don’t know what I expected out of the goalies, but I didn’t expect a multi-goal melt-down in each of the three games, after getting back into games two and three.

I expected more leadership than I’ve seen (and maybe I’m just not seeing what has happened) from the veterans - not all of the blown coverages by Keith (covering for a partner?), not lackadaisical offside and apparent lack of interest in back checking by Kane. This paragraph may be unfair. I’m leaving it in.

I expected losses - lots of losses - but I expected them to look like a major league hockey team, competive more than 10 minutes out of 60.

OK - only three games - little camp and practice time - lots of new faces....I can take the losses if we can see improvement.
- StLBravesFan

I said in the last blog this team would struggle to make the AHL playoffs and last place teams "always look like train wrecks in any sport" and I'm sticking to it. We are the 0-16 Lions HintheD.

Hawks are currently sitting with the best odds for 1st O/A in the draft.

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl

"Keith and either Toews and Kane should be moved for picks. What's the point of having having 2 x 10.5 million dollar players on a last place team"

Oh how it pains me to agree with you, but I think it's time to just throw in the towel, trade away our two HOF players and just start over. If only I had confidence that they could pick a prospect out of a peck of pickles. Hit the jackpot with Dach and Kubalik, but that's about it
- ktsparks

The $10.5 guys are likely not tradable for sure one of them Keith I really don't care.

1. Saad for Zadorov
2. Maata for Morrison (who?)
3 .Lehner for Subaan

Sorry we didn't get 6 first rounders this is simply Stan bashing and stupid.
- rpeters01

Yeah that was from the last blog. Meant to comment on those as well as the Bears comment. You could add a few others he included like the Murphy for Hammer trade.

0-16 Lions, last year’s Wings? Splitting hairs I suppose but agree with you. Like I said previously, I was under no assumption that this team was competing for anything other than possibly being a bubble playoff team, but remove Toews and Dach from the equation and what we’re seeing was certainly a possibility AFAIWC.

Hawks are currently sitting with the best odds for 1st O/A in the draft.

http://www.tankathon.com/nhl
- Rota's Rooter

There is always Bettman to rig the lottery.....in fact it wouldn't shock me if somehow Chicago gets into a play-in round of playoffs, just because Bettman can do that.

Any way the Hawks could get some style point ping pong balls added in to the lottery tumbler for how badly they’ve been losing. You know, just to be sure.

There is always Bettman to rig the lottery.....in fact it wouldn't shock me if somehow Chicago gets into a play-in round of playoffs, just because Bettman can do that.
- powerenforcer

Unless all 31 teams are somehow included, there’s no way the Hawks are getting into any play-in round.

Unless all 31 teams are somehow included, there’s no way the Hawks are getting into any play in round.
- HawkintheD

They had no business last season either, yet they were there.

They had no business last season either, yet they were there.
- powerenforcer

And somehow won a round.

And somehow won a round.
- mohel

A broken clock is correct twice a day too, doesn't mean we should use it as a measuring stick. My point is, if Bettman never came up with some goofy playin rules, they wouldn't have sniffed playoff hockey.
Correction: Alalog clock

A broken clock is correct twice a day too, doesn't mean we should use it as a measuring stick. My point is, if Bettman never came up with some goofy playin rules, they wouldn't have sniffed playoff hockey.
Correction: Alalog clock
- powerenforcer

What if it’s a military clock?

What if it’s a military clock?
- paulr

Then it is correct once every 24 hours.

A broken clock is correct twice a day too, doesn't mean we should use it as a measuring stick. My point is, if Bettman never came up with some goofy playin rules, they wouldn't have sniffed playoff hockey.
Correction: Alalog clock
- powerenforcer

The team they iced at the tournament was okay - good enough to play with the Oil, nowhere near good enough to play with Vegas. So, they decided it was time to rebuild. McD was against it, so he was launched. The subtracted Saad and Maatta. Added some kids. Then lost Toews and Dach. The plan is for them to play the kids, and suck. The plan is coming along nicely.

Also, bad teams in sports typically look like they have little idea how to play the game. Part of being bad.

Another thing.....no coach - even Q - makes this team close to good.

The core.....two of them are absolutely untradeable right now. Keith might bring back a little something at the TDL, but he's 37 and not playing well. Kane, in normal times, would still bring a solid return. First, they have to find a team willing and able to take on $10.5M, likely with a bad contract coming back. Now the hard part - to get better, the Hawks need high #1's; and you don't get that from the teams in a position to acquire Kane. That leaves high end prospects. Is a team giving up high end prospects for an older guy making that much? During this economic era for the league?

PE, this was general commentary, not directed at you in particular.